Ask a Cop: Monitoring Restaurants At Night?
Have a question for the Fredericksburg Police Department? Send it to dan.telvock@patch.com or leave it in the comments.
Question: What is the department's policy on monitoring restaurants late at night? Is having multiple squad cars in one area in the public's best interest and a proper use of tax dollars?
Answer: The Police Department does keep track of locations in the city where we have repeated calls for service and/or arrests, and many of those locations are businesses known for their nightlife. Due to these repeated incidents, usually disturbances and assaults, we flag these locations for increased patrol and proactive policing. Disturbances and assaults are much less likely to occur when there is an officer plainly visible in the vicinity. However, these officers are also available to respond to incidents as needed away from the targeted problem area.
TPKeller
10:06 am on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
The police officers on duty have to be somewhere... would you rather they be camped out in front of your house where nothing is likely to happen?
Seth Casana
10:18 am on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Focusing patrol in areas where there have been repeated offenses is one thing, but harassing unproblematic customers is another. I've witnessed some downright disrespectful behavior from police officers during these stakeouts. Targeted patrolling cannot be used to justify unprovoked harassment.
Garrett J.
12:25 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
I would love to follow up with them and ask, which "disturbances" do they deal with when camping out on William Street? With all the crime Dan Telvock has been reporting so well, I believe a person stumbling a little down the sidewalk is the least of our worries...
Tom Fortune
12:51 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Nope nuthin to worry about ... until the stumbler gets into his car and kills Garrett J on route 3..
Dan Telvock
12:46 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Garrett, it's been a little more than people stumbling on a sidewalk. One instance was a fight in the street that had reports of 50 people blocking the street, there was a pretty serious stabbing at another local bar and a few more in the past 12 months that I think many would consider pretty serious. The most-recent incident brought at least eight police cruisers to downtown on a Thursday night, including two state police cruisers. I'm not sure the focus is on people stumbling down the sidewalk....at least not recently.
Garrett J.
1:33 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
I agree 100%, Dan. Thanks to the wonderful reporting at the Patch, I am aware of most of those events. A lot of what you just mentioned took place in different locations from where I see the largest police presence every weekend. That is all I'm saying...
Dan Telvock
12:52 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Can't he/she just walk home, Mr. Fortune?
Tom Fortune
12:52 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Cmon Dan! Whats wrong with a few stumblers?
Dan Telvock
12:54 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
There could be a lot if they do what you say they might do--get in a car and drive. Not all do.
Tom Fortune
1:16 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
You're right Dan. Drunks never get in their cars. What was I thinking?!
Dan Telvock
1:19 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Right, Tom, because that's exactly what I said. We're not in disagreement here other than your broad statement that anyone who leaves a bar with a few too many is automatically driving home.
Tom Fortune
1:23 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Er, Dan the original reference was to a hypothetical "stumbler" - someone who THEORETICALLY could get in a car and reek havoc. Its not that complicated.
Garrett J.
1:30 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Mr. Fortune, you have "stumbled" upon one of the most common logical fallacies used. You can not assume, nor police, what some one "might do".
Tom Fortune
1:35 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Glad to see you're still alive! As Aristotle used to say to Plato: "I'm outta here, baby."
Garrett J.
1:47 pm on Tuesday, July 24, 2012
Just makes me wonder if there is an ulterior motive here, besides public safety.
Unknown Sender
1:31 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
come on folks. crime or atleast, laws that 'might' be broken can happen anywhere. we all know the saying "stuff happens". the police cant be everywhere. but they can, when not on serious calls, 'patrol' their assigned area. some may even sit in a spot not likely to be a hotspot of criminal activity, but you never know when or where it will happen. funny, when they are needed some say they are never around... flip side... when not needed they are all over the place.
personally i work in a local rest/bar. all the time alcohol induced buttheads are causing a bad night for those patrons who do labibe, but do so at an enjoyable non harmful way. i for one am glad to see a patrol unit pass by now and then. it DOES have an effect when passing by.
not to mention my business, and others like it, are thankful the police come when we call them. i know legally they cant sit right at our front door, but i dont mind if they are a stones throw away.
remember folks, if WE werent the bad ones, they wouldnt exist!
PEACE!!!!