Otter House Owner Asked Police for Help Before Raid
The raid of the downtown nightclub was conducted about a month after the emails were exchanged.
About one month before Fredericksburg police raided Otter House, one of the co-owners of the nightclub had been emailing Police Chief David Nye to ask about ways he could reduce the number of incidents that required police to respond to the business at 1005 Princess Anne St.
Fredericksburg Patch also learned that the police chief provided Stephen Cameli with a list of arrested persons that Cameli was reviewing and preparing to provide to the nightclub's hired security team before the raid happened.
But after that correspondence in June, the police department had no more interaction with either of the two owners of the Otter House, and on July 27 investigators raided the business after a seven-month investigation into alleged drug dealing at an apartment next to Otter House at 1009 Princess Anne St. and at least one customer inside the nightclub nicknamed "Smoke." The search turned up two narcotic pain pills in a green plastic bag, a smoking device in an office and another smoking device and a small amount of marijuana in an outside alley next to the nightclub. A week later, Cameli and co-owner Paul Stoddard were charged with the misdemeanor charge of keeping a common nuisance.
On June 22, Cameli emailed Fredericksburg Police Chief David Nye asking if he would provide a list of names of possible troublemakers for Otter House so that he could take action.
Chief Nye provided a list of arrestees and on June 25, Cameli wrote the chief again saying that he agrees that prevention is the key in helping reduce the number of incidents at Otter House. Since Aug. 15, 2011, police responded to the nightclub 52.5 times that required a written report of the incident—the most of any nightclub in town.
"Identifying potential problem individuals before they enter the premise will be a invaluable resource for us," Cameli wrote the chief.
Cameli also said that he has spoken to other nightclub owners about an idea of having two officers visit the nightclubs Thursday through Saturday and suggested to the chief that the police department's goal could be to form a friendly, positive relationship with the management, security and staff of the restaurants.
"They would provide a visual deterrent and would be able to gather information on potential problem individuals by stopping by the restaurants to see how things are going," Cameli wrote. "The officers would also work as liaisons between the restaurants. I would love to talk more about this idea and would be willing to help in anyway possible."
Fredericksburg Police Department spokeswoman Natatia Bledsoe said that Cameli and the chief also had a phone conversation in which Cameli said he would ban the known offenders from his business, but there was no follow-up on the idea of having officers patrolling downtown on foot and visiting nightclubs more frequently as a community policing initiative. Neither the chief nor any police officer visited with the co-owners after the emails were exchanged to follow up with them.
Bledsoe said the police department decided against moving forward with Cameli's suggestion because the department already does the following:
- Have a patrol work schedule that has been tailored to provide the most effective coverage for the entire city.
- Have officers working the same patrol zone on a long-term and consistent basis. (The same officers work downtown but the days they work rotate.)
- Have a Community Police Officer assigned downtown.
- Host “Managing the Nightlife” seminars for employees of nightclubs to learn how to mitigate problems associated with bars and the sale of alcohol.
- Identify “hot spots” in the city and concentrate patrol efforts on those areas that are known to require more frequent police intervention.
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1Ronald
7:33 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Of the 52.5 responses after August 15, each of which requiring a written report, is there any clearly defined pattern of complaint in which those individuals could have been targeted? Are these repeat offenders? And how can there be .5 response with written report? Either there is a response or there isn't. There can't be one half of a response. Does this mean the written report was started but never finished? None of these questions were answered in the article which would go far in determining personal safety and commitment to walk the talk.
ActualReader
8:05 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
From previous article:
"The DUI arrests that are attributed to each business result from the offender’s admission of where he/she was drinking prior to the arrest. In cases where the offender named two establishments, that detail is noted with a 0.5 attribution. "
Dan Telvock
8:23 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Ronald, those questions have been answered if you just read the attached PDF in the article "What Bars Are Fredericksburg Police Called to Most" That's why I attached the PDF to the article.
Croasdale
8:32 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Wow! So the owners went as far as asking for help from the police dept! This whole thing is really starting stink of the good old boy network! We need more police on foot and bike. Day and Night in downtown Fredericksburg!!! This area is growing fast! In crime and population! Instead of blowing tax money on botched drug raids...... Why not invest some money in more police officers and bikes?
Sipowitz
8:40 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
So the law states that the owners must "knowingly" permit, keep and maintain a nuisance to be charged with one. So I guess the fact that the owners were asking police to help identify problem makers, asking for ways to better improve their security, and paid out the nose for professional bouncer teams on high traffic nights means absolutely diddly squat to the FBPD.
Jeeze, it's like saying hookers keep using my backyard to turn tricks; even though I chase them out each time I find them, build a huge fence to keep them out, and ask the cops for help, I'm still going to get charged because it's happening in my yard. Once again, just shameful stuff by the FBPD here.
Rob Grogan
9:41 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I thought I did leave a comment. I did leave a comment. Where did it go?
Dan Telvock
9:47 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I believe you left it on the other story not this one
Dan Telvock
9:51 am on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Yes, Rob, your comment is in this story: http://fredericksburg.patch.com/articles/what-bars-are-fredericksburg-police-called-to-the-most
Rob Grogan
7:34 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Apologies to the editor. My comment is on the other related article.
Jake
3:16 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
This is getting pretty embarrassing for the police department. Crime is a problem downtown, but trying to run businesses out if town is not the answer. I think the owner's request sounds like a good step in the right direction to calming things down. An increased regular presence could calm things down quickly. But it seems like the pd had already decided they wanted to play swat team. A good rule of thumb: businesses engaged in drug rings probably don't email the police asking them to come around more often. I also don't understand how DUIs are counted against the bar where someone was drinking. It's not their responsibility what people do when they leave the bar. Are they supposed to follow all their patrons around to make sure none get in a car?
Jason Atkinson
9:59 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Would be curious to see those numbers without the DUIs included...
Buck Mulligan
9:16 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Not only did the Fredericksburg PD A) waste tons of time and taxpayer money on raiding an establishment that is obviously no different than a dozen others like it in the city, and B) embarrass themselves by their amateurish and buffoon-like display during the raid, but now its PR spokeswoman, Ms. Bledsoe, can't muster enough gumption to present even an iota of contrition for the spectacle her agency caused...not to mention the damage done to The Otter House via negative press and to it's owners, both of whom I'm sure haven't slept a wink since the raid. Memo to members of the Fredericksburg PD who raided The Otter House: the next time you feel the steroids beginning to bubble up to the surface, why don't you just do what most other policemen do and find a black person to harass?
Citizen
7:26 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
It was nice last summer when there were two police officers walking downtown all day long. I dont remember their names but they really made a difference. I hated that they had to go back to their original assignments. They were two really nice guys and treated everyone with respect. I would like for those two inparticular back on the downtown beat. No other cops have done a good as job as they did. Bring them back! Other cops could learn a lesson or two from them.